so thuggery is acceptable at club level? I don't recall Paul O Connell acting in such a fashion. At any level.

he knew exactly what he was doin! and to say he didnt wit all his previous! please! red all the way!

van der Flier breaks through the middle after he hacks at the ball following McGrath's good tackle.

This behaviour shouldn't happen for club or country and I say that about one of our own players too. The guy is a thug.

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Certainly reckless but he can't be blamed for O'Brien slipping just as he was going to tackle him. Didn't even look like he caught him on the cideo

Once a knacker always a knacker

Hartley is a thug

Calm down everyone. He's captained England to an unbeaten year. He comes on trying to make an impact and ***** up. Get over it

Never a red